rooftop doesn't open anymore

filphodeblieck · Jul 8, 2022

Hello,

First post, checked out forum and didn't found what I was looking for.
Living in Belgium, driving a T5 with DSG7 since 2015, travelling in Europe for at least 5 weeks a year.

I have a 'roof fault' on my display. At the beginning I heard the electro motor(hydraulic actuation) for a few seconds when I pushed the knob. The rooftop didn't move, I could push 'close' again and heard the roof fasten.

I went to my dealer, they told me it was a sensor problem and they could repair it. The sensors + cable tree costs 473€ + x hours work...

I bought sensors from a BMW dealer (found the partnumber on your site, thanks!). But...

I can't open the roof anymore.
I tried to take out the the display unit, the clips at both sides are no problem. But I can't reach the two clips at the top of the unit.

I downloaded the Lambeth cali pdf and we (with the help of my son in law) think we can swap the sensors, only if the roof opens...

I hope someone can help...

Filpho

flying banana · Jul 9, 2022

Undo the bleed screw on the pump behind the display. The hydraulic lock is now gone. The roof should then be able to be lifted up manually and propped up with something

filphodeblieck · Jul 9, 2022

Thanks for your reply!
The first problem is that I can't take out the display, as you can see the clips at the sides are opened. I can't open the top clips because I can't pentrate there with a spudger. (I am affraid to damage the display unit when I push to hard...)
greetz,
filpho

Alan Andrews · Jul 9, 2022

Seems to be a common issue with the upper tangs.

Check out the videos posted by WelshGas here.

Control panel removal

I've read that you have to connect the small plugs back first when you install a new control unit - but is there any order in which you need to remove them in the first place??

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please update once completed.

Lambeth Cali · Jul 9, 2022

There’s no way around it I think. Just keep trying. I would suggest pushing it back in again and then starting with the top next time maybe.
YouTube can be helpful.
I’ve taken mine out twice and replaced for a new one.

I don’t have any tools so I use a small sharp blade from a Swiss Army knife.

EddieEagle · Jul 9, 2022

this shows the offending tags, taken from the internet somewhere……

filphodeblieck · Jul 10, 2022

Thanks for help!
I got the display out, I first released the side clips and then easily found the upper clips (since I knew where to push ;-) The display came out.

All cables are correctly plugged in, the fuse is ok.
But I still can't open my roof. Pushing hard does nothing, electro-motor does not work at all (when pushing on the round knob (roof/open)).

I'm now looking to release the screw behind the foam, there is already a little hole in the foam but it's difficult to find which type of screwdriver I need. Or do i have to remove all the foam (it's difficult to replace properly I assume)

Feels not good to ask so much, but in my opinion this is not at all explained in the california manual (shame on you VW).

Thanks for helping me, I love this forum...

gr
filpho

Lambeth Cali · Jul 10, 2022

When he undoes the screw to manually raise the roof, does that somehow stop the hydraulics working?
When he’s replaced the sensors, will the hydraulics work? Or has releasing the screw stopped them working?

I don’t know as I didn’t need to do that.

WelshGas · Jul 10, 2022

filphodeblieck said:
Thanks for help!
I got the display out, I first released the side clips and then easily found the upper clips (since I knew where to push ;-) The display came out.

All cables are correctly plugged in, the fuse is ok.
But I still can't open my roof. Pushing hard does nothing, electro-motor does not work at all (when pushing on the round knob (roof/open)).

I'm now looking to release the screw behind the foam, there is already a little hole in the foam but it's difficult to find which type of screwdriver I need. Or do i have to remove all the foam (it's difficult to replace properly I assume)

Feels not good to ask so much, but in my opinion this is not at all explained in the california manual (shame on you VW).

Thanks for helping me, I love this forum...

gr
filpho

Is the Control Panel showing any error codes?

Check Control Panel Diagnostics.

Control Panel Off and wait 30 secs

Control Panel On

Press and Hold R lower button and then press Control Knob for 5 secs.

New Hidden Menu . Scroll to VW Diagnostics.

If there are any codes shown, take note and then Reset/Clear.

Return to Main Menu.

Switch Off Control Panel using L lower button. Wait 30 secs and Switch On.

Try Roof/Heater or Fridge

filphodeblieck · Jul 10, 2022

An update, I finally opened the roof (a few centimeter). Driving to my son in law this afternoon (with a strap on the roof). Hope we can swap the sensors this evening and that this will do the job!

Grateful,

filpho

EddieEagle · Jul 10, 2022

If I recall the hydraulic release screw needs straight screwdriver. The one in the toolkit will work ..

flying banana · Jul 10, 2022

Flat blade screw driver.

Steve1 · Jul 10, 2022

filphodeblieck said:
An update, I finally opened the roof (a few centimeter). Driving to my son in law this afternoon (with a strap on the roof). Hope we can swap the sensors this evening and that this will do the job!

Grateful,

filpho

How did you open the roof in the end ? Did releasing the hydraulic screw thing allow the roof to be pushed up ?

Azteccamper · Jul 10, 2022

filphodeblieck said:
An update, I finally opened the roof (a few centimeter). Driving to my son in law this afternoon (with a strap on the roof). Hope we can swap the sensors this evening and that this will do the job!

Grateful,

filpho

Good stuff. Could you let us know how you opened roof please?

filphodeblieck · Jul 12, 2022

Steve1 said:
How did you open the roof in the end ? Did releasing the hydraulic screw thing allow the roof to be pushed up ?

Now it didn't, above the passenger's seat I could open it some cm. At the other site it stayed locked. We finally removed the headline and all other stuff (mirror, ...). We connected the 12V battery to the connector of electromotor (that pump's the hydraulics) and it opened. Swapping the positive and negative pool would close the roof.

filphodeblieck · Jul 12, 2022

And finally we swapped the sensors to, and the rooftop works normal now! Swapping the sensors was much more easy than removing the headline...
We are very happy! Thanks to this forum we repaired for €60 in stead of (at least) €800!

Greatings,

filip

Mrs J.H · Sep 30, 2023

flying banana said:
Undo the bleed screw on the pump behind the display. The hydraulic lock is now gone. The roof should then be able to be lifted up manually and propped up with something

Hi not sure if this is the right to post this, we’re having the 1000 roof fault. Hubby gonna attempt to fix it but we are unable to get the roof up. He has removed the screw but it won’t budge!!! We refuse to pay the £2500 local vw. Any suggestions please??

WelshGas · Sep 30, 2023

Mrs J.H said:
Hi not sure if this is the right to post this, we’re having the 1000 roof fault. Hubby gonna attempt to fix it but we are unable to get the roof up. He has removed the screw but it won’t budge!!! We refuse to pay the £2500 local vw. Any suggestions please??

See Post 15 above.

Mrs J.H · Sep 30, 2023

WelshGas said:
See Post 15 above.

Tried that didn’t work now trying to locate pump & connect driectly to that!!

WelshGas · Sep 30, 2023

Mrs J.H said:
Tried that didn’t work now trying to locate pump & connect driectly to that!!

Post 15 referred to exposing the pump and connecting a 12v supply.
So that didn't work in your case?

vbk1975 · Sep 30, 2023

Mrs J.H said:
Tried that didn’t work now trying to locate pump & connect driectly to that!!

Make sure the bleed screw is tight again before applying power directly to the motor.

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