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Hi all. Had my Cali three years, fully comp with LV, full bonus, driveway parking, East Suffolk, no accs or cons. Renewal for this year up 75% from £375 to £660. No changes. Anybody else had this kind of hike? Mind you, it still seems to be the cheapest out there, plenty others £750+. Have I had it too good for too long?
 
Seems LV is on a funding drive. It happens. Some years certain companies increase their policy rates significantly more than others. Thats why it's important to shop around when a renewal is due.

 
Hi all. Had my Cali three years, fully comp with LV, full bonus, driveway parking, East Suffolk, no accs or cons. Renewal for this year up 75% from £375 to £660. No changes. Anybody else had this kind of hike? Mind you, it still seems to be the cheapest out there, plenty others £750+. Have I had it too good for too long?
Try comfort. My LV renewal for Jan 24 is £700 odd.
Comfort £404
 
LV and Comfort seen to make it up as they go.
My Comfort insurance went through the roof this year so signed with LV for less.
I expect I will be doing the reverse next year!
 
Hi all. Had my Cali three years, fully comp with LV, full bonus, driveway parking, East Suffolk, no accs or cons. Renewal for this year up 75% from £375 to £660. No changes. Anybody else had this kind of hike? Mind you, it still seems to be the cheapest out there, plenty others £750+. Have I had it too good for too long?
My LV went from £561 in 2022, to £790 in 2023, but reduced the mileage by 2000 to get that.
No one could beat that including Comfort, some were £1300. I did call CAMC who said they couldn't beat that, but someone sent a link recently where they state they'll beat any quote by £25. Strange they couldn't do that for me perhaps, but I didn't ask as I hadn't seen that offer.
 
My LV went from £561 in 2022, to £790 in 2023, but reduced the mileage by 2000 to get that.
No one could beat that including Comfort, some were £1300. I did call CAMC who said they couldn't beat that, but someone sent a link recently where they state they'll beat any quote by £25. Strange they couldn't do that for me perhaps, but I didn't ask as I hadn't seen that offer.
CAMC usually say they'll beat by £25 which isn't worth considering as an incentive at todays rates. £75 would be.

Noticed an article that JLR are doing their own Insurance due to owners not being able to find/obtain cover for Range Rovers from normal sources.

Always somebody worse of than Cali Owners..
 
wouldnt touch lv again left this year no confirmation of the breakdown cover i paid 120 pounds for.when i left at renewal they said they would send proof of my no claims bonus.it never arrived phoned three times told its 2 months now cant retrieve my details. they just dont give a damn.
 
Same issue here - we decided to keep it the same but our multi car with Tiguan and Cali went from 600 to 1100.

We'll shop around next year, just couldn't be bothered this.
 
CAMC usually say they'll beat by £25 which isn't worth considering as an incentive at todays rates. £75 would be.

Noticed an article that JLR are doing their own Insurance due to owners not being able to find/obtain cover for Range Rovers from normal sources.

Always somebody worse of than Cali Owners..
From friends' experience, I'm guessing that a radical update to the security on Range Rovers might help a bit.
 
From friends' experience, I'm guessing that a radical update to the security on Range Rovers might help a bit.
Range Rovers and RAV4s. In last 4 months one of each has been stolen from my road.

Maybe my 50% insurance renewal hike last month was a good deal :confused:
 
I must be getting old. M&S underwritten by Aviva is £520 for house insurance.
LV want £793.
Phoned LV and told them to check my auto renewal is off.
Going with comfort for cars (Aviva?) and M&S (Aviva ) for house
 
CAMC usually say they'll beat by £25 which isn't worth considering as an incentive at todays rates. £75 would be.

Noticed an article that JLR are doing their own Insurance due to owners not being able to find/obtain cover for Range Rovers from normal sources.

Always somebody worse of than Cali Owners..
JLR’s have a problem, Range Rover is the most stolen vehicle in the UK, Defenders are also very high risk. A lot of insurers have just stopped offering quotes on them all together and are declining to offer renewals. Also parts are practically unobtainable, there are 100’s of these vehicles sat in the repair network awaiting parts whilst people are running round in massively expensive daily rate rentals (another reason insurance is up 65% this year), Direct Line lost £43 Million last year!
So yes JLR have started offering their own insurance but at a cost, £200 per month for a good risk Range Rover!!! The other big problem is EV’s, repair costs are massive with write offs extremely high, there’s no mechanism to verify a battery’s integrity after a large impact so on safety grounds the entire battery pack has to be replaced. Two problems the cost and you can’t get hold of them, resulting in cars being written off. EV insurance will become extremely expensive soon! Sorry to be all doom and gloom but sell your EV and Range Rover whilst you can……..
 
JLR’s have a problem, Range Rover is the most stolen vehicle in the UK, Defenders are also very high risk. A lot of insurers have just stopped offering quotes on them all together and are declining to offer renewals. Also parts are practically unobtainable, there are 100’s of these vehicles sat in the repair network awaiting parts whilst people are running round in massively expensive daily rate rentals (another reason insurance is up 65% this year), Direct Line lost £43 Million last year!
So yes JLR have started offering their own insurance but at a cost, £200 per month for a good risk Range Rover!!! The other big problem is EV’s, repair costs are massive with write offs extremely high, there’s no mechanism to verify a battery’s integrity after a large impact so on safety grounds the entire battery pack has to be replaced. Two problems the cost and you can’t get hold of them, resulting in cars being written off. EV insurance will become extremely expensive soon! Sorry to be all doom and gloom but sell your EV and Range Rover whilst you can……..
I dont get why some people (Emoji of a shrug) pay so much money for a nice car but dont install a telematric tracker, with geofence and a ghost.
Its easy enough, and you get better premium come renewal time.
Might be some people just don't know about these products.
 
I dont get why some people (Emoji of a shrug) pay so much money for a nice car but dont install a telematric tracker, with geofence and a ghost.
Its easy enough, and you get better premium come renewal time.
Might be some people just don't know about these products.
I think lots of people are averse to adding aftermarket hardwired electronics to there car. I certainly am. Although they are intended for a good purpose. In the past (and possibly still now) many after market fitters didn't do a wonderful job with their wiring which lead to problems arising from poor connections a few years after install. These problems can cause a serious issue particularly when it's an immobilizer device. There have been many cases of cars unable to be started to be tracked back to bad connections cause by an immobiliser. Also battery drain is often tracked back to various aftermarket electrics. In the past connections were often made with scotch locks etc. which hack into the wire sheath, but later that hack point often failed. I don't know what the people who fit this equipment do now, I'm sure some of them are very professional, but often it's hard to find out that info.
Only a few years back I had a towbar fitted on a car I bought from a reputable car dealer, they had it fitted before I bought it by their recommended fitter, who said it would be a BMW specific wiring harness. It wasn't ! But even putting that aside it didn't work properly when it arrived and when I looked at the wiring it was shockingly bad.
 
I dont get why some people (Emoji of a shrug) pay so much money for a nice car but dont install a telematric tracker, with geofence and a ghost.
Its easy enough, and you get better premium come renewal time.
Might be some people just don't know about these products.
I know about them, pretty sure we all do, but without them the Cali is unsteal-able without a key, so see no purpose in elephant powder products.

Each of us falls into two camps. Think it's going to save my Cali, or realise it won't - I'm firmly in the latter ;)
 
I think lots of people are averse to adding aftermarket hardwired electronics to there car. I certainly am. Although they are intended for a good purpose. In the past (and possibly still now) many after market fitters didn't do a wonderful job with their wiring which lead to problems arising from poor connections a few years after install. These problems can cause a serious issue particularly when it's an immobilizer device. There have been many cases of cars unable to be started to be tracked back to bad connections cause by an immobiliser. Also battery drain is often tracked back to various aftermarket electrics. In the past connections were often made with scotch locks etc. which hack into the wire sheath, but later that hack point often failed. I don't know what the people who fit this equipment do now, I'm sure some of them are very professional, but often it's hard to find out that info.
Only a few years back I had a towbar fitted on a car I bought from a reputable car dealer, they had it fitted before I bought it by their recommended fitter, who said it would be a BMW specific wiring harness. It wasn't ! But even putting that aside it didn't work properly when it arrived and when I looked at the wiring it was shockingly bad.
True, you do get some tradespeople rocking up on a horse.
The guy who fits my products, and refitted, and refitted it, actually cuts the sheathing off and solders directly into the loom. So no hack job on mine.
I know specialist thieves have scanners now and can locate trackers and ghosts etc etc, but it gives me peace of mind and I can afford it, then hopefully reduce my odds and premiums.
 
I know about them, pretty sure we all do, but without them the Cali is unsteal-able without a key, so see no purpose in elephant powder products.

Each of us falls into two camps. Think it's going to save my Cali, or realise it won't - I'm firmly in the latter ;)
Can be pulled up on a lowloader, with no key, but can you track it ?
 
EV insurance will become extremely expensive soon! Sorry to be all doom and gloom but sell your EV and Range Rover whilst you can……..
It's not just EV insurance though, all drivers are penalised as it not just what you are driving that maters but the repair costs of what you might hit, the more EVs there are out there, the more everyones insurance premiums will go up.
 
Can be pulled up on a lowloader, with no key, but can you track it ?
If someone is going to the trouble of getting a low loader, dragging my Cali on it from my drive and driving it away (something with no known evidence of ever happening), they they certainly won't be fooled by a tracking device and will have it in a faraday box before you can say "waste of money". They have all the devices and tools to remove all your gadgets.

I guess they could sling ropes under it and helicopter it away. Or take the wheels off and four big lads carry it away. Never heard of those happening either.

I've always said on here - Ghosts to wheel clamps, if it makes you feel better, brilliant. But it's not actually needed. And that's not just me. Thatcham recognise that a Cali and the level of security has it is the best you can get. The fact they they are not keyless is even more secure.

Keys safe. Cali safe.

Don't be fooled by car theft stats from these companies either. These stats include theft from a vehicle, not of a vehicle. Which is in the rise. The latter has reduced to nigh on zero, unless you live in London and have a Ranger Rover that is... o_O
 
JLR’s have a problem, Range Rover is the most stolen vehicle in the UK, Defenders are also very high risk. A lot of insurers have just stopped offering quotes on them all together and are declining to offer renewals. Also parts are practically unobtainable, there are 100’s of these vehicles sat in the repair network awaiting parts whilst people are running round in massively expensive daily rate rentals (another reason insurance is up 65% this year), Direct Line lost £43 Million last year!
So yes JLR have started offering their own insurance but at a cost, £200 per month for a good risk Range Rover!!! The other big problem is EV’s, repair costs are massive with write offs extremely high, there’s no mechanism to verify a battery’s integrity after a large impact so on safety grounds the entire battery pack has to be replaced. Two problems the cost and you can’t get hold of them, resulting in cars being written off. EV insurance will become extremely expensive soon! Sorry to be all doom and gloom but sell your EV and Range Rover whilst you can……..

I follow a few car auction videos. Many discos / RR’s aren’t even being bid on, let alone being sold. Anyone who owns one, stick it into WBAC, once sat down with a stiff drink!
 
I think lots of people are averse to adding aftermarket hardwired electronics to there car. I certainly am. Although they are intended for a good purpose. In the past (and possibly still now) many after market fitters didn't do a wonderful job with their wiring which lead to problems arising from poor connections a few years after install. These problems can cause a serious issue particularly when it's an immobilizer device. There have been many cases of cars unable to be started to be tracked back to bad connections cause by an immobiliser. Also battery drain is often tracked back to various aftermarket electrics. In the past connections were often made with scotch locks etc. which hack into the wire sheath, but later that hack point often failed. I don't know what the people who fit this equipment do now, I'm sure some of them are very professional, but often it's hard to find out that info.
Only a few years back I had a towbar fitted on a car I bought from a reputable car dealer, they had it fitted before I bought it by their recommended fitter, who said it would be a BMW specific wiring harness. It wasn't ! But even putting that aside it didn't work properly when it arrived and when I looked at the wiring it was shockingly bad.
The immobilizer in the Porsche 993 is notorious and that was factory fitted.
 
If someone is going to the trouble of getting a low loader, dragging my Cali on it from my drive and driving it away (something with no known evidence of ever happening), they they certainly won't be fooled by a tracking device and will have it in a faraday box before you can say "waste of money". They have all the devices and tools to remove all your gadgets.

I guess they could sling ropes under it and helicopter it away. Or take the wheels off and four big lads carry it away. Never heard of those happening either.

I've always said on here - Ghosts to wheel clamps, if it makes you feel better, brilliant. But it's not actually needed. And that's not just me. Thatcham recognise that a Cali and the level of security has it is the best you can get. The fact they they are not keyless is even more secure.

Keys safe. Cali safe.

Don't be fooled by car theft stats from these companies either. These stats include theft from a vehicle, not of a vehicle. Which is in the rise. The latter has reduced to nigh on zero, unless you live in London and have a Ranger Rover that is... o_O
All the car insurance companies I have asked refuse to offer any discount for aftermarket theft deterrent devices which sort of says it all. Even they don't believe the systems prevent a determined thief from taking possession.
 
Speaking to my mates at the Insurance company I used to work for, repair costs and parts prices have gone through the roof. The market is very competitive with low profit margins of 3% in a good year. If you get your sums wrong that can disappear very easily. I dare say it’s not a popular view but none of the Insurers are making big profits, some big names have been in financial difficulty. Now I know, no one is going to feel sorry for Insurers but the short story is we are all going to be paying more.
 

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